Give Peace a Chance?

Lorelei Kelly writes: "The world public opinion poll that found seven in ten Americans favor Congressional candidates who will pursue major changes in US foreign policy, want less emphasis on use of military force to solve problems and want to work more cooperatively with the United Nations. Most favor direct talks with North Korea and Iran to boot!" See more here.

I do think the political prospects for candidates espousing "dovish" views is considerably worse than a simplistic read of the polling data would indicate. On the other had, I also think the political prospects of such views are considerably better than is commonly accepted inside Democratic campaigning circles, where the thinking seems to be that you always want to position yourself as hawkishly as you can manage. Here's John Hostettler (R-IN) touting his 2002 vote against the war -- "In October 2002, when America was clamoring to go to war in Iraq, I voted against sending America's sons and daughters into harm's way because the intelligence did not support the claim that there were weapons of mass destruction there." No doubt he took a lot of shit, politically, for his stand at the time. But there are probably a lot of perfectly cynical pols out there who think they'd be in better shape today if they could make Hostettler's claim honestly.

Comments

Yeah, but isn't Hostettler at or near the top of the list of House members who are doomed in November?

Posted by: cmdr. overbite on October 26, 2006 10:32 AM

See here for a much more expansive treatment of this question.

Posted by: Blake Hounshell on October 26, 2006 10:40 AM

This is a question of "framing". "Dove" has negative connotations. If you want to oppose warmongering and militarism, you can't do it on the merits of "peace". You have to attack the warmongers for something. The only one I've seen do it in the mass media is Pat Buchanan (who thereby serves as a kind of inoculation).

Posted by: brendan on October 26, 2006 12:06 PM

The bigger objection to Kelly is that polls are irrelevant: U.S. foreign policy is a closed sphere, impervious to public opinion. Public support for invading Iraq did not drive the policy -- the fact of the war, after the policy had long been decided, drove public support. Likewise, public opposition won't get us out of Iraq any more than public opinion got the Germans out of Paris or Poland.

Posted by: brendan on October 26, 2006 12:11 PM


See here for a much more expansive treatment of this question.

Compressed version: 'We Democrats are as eager to nuke Iran as any Republican, but before we do we want to make a big fuss about how badly Iran treats women. Even if Republicans made a similar fuss they wouldn't mean it, so a Democratic nuclear strike will be morally superior to a Republican one.'

Posted by: David Tomlin on October 26, 2006 12:21 PM

I second "David Tomlin".

I waded through that turgid neoconservative -- oops, "liberal hawk" stew of euphemisms and here is sentence that gives it away:

"Or take Iran, an issue on which some on the left see it as the right of Iran to gain nuclear weapons like any other country, while others on the left believe it to be one of the most dire national security threats we face."

The usual false dichotomy uttered like little warmongers like Peter Beinart and whoever the authors of this piece were.

Hounshell, when I see you taken in by this shit I have to ask again: how old are you?

Posted by: brendan on October 26, 2006 04:25 PM

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