Resignatins

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"One could imagine ... him getting dragged out of the Pentagon in handcuffs."

Well, no more than 5 or 6 times a day.

Liability to impeachment applies to 'all civil Officers of the United States'. (Article II, Section 4)

Obviously the Army Times has been infiltrated by lib traitor journalists. What we need is a good Stalinist purge of the armed forces.

Couldn't leaders of a Dem majority in both houses indicate that firing Rumsfeld might buy Bush some goodwill. Unlikely, he would take it, but I am not really sure he has realized how easy his Presidency has been in terms of dealing with Congress and the Press. Additionally, almost all external events in his administration were to his benfit, or were directly caused by his own Bushness.

Rummy is the firewall that is protecting Cheney and Bushie. Bob Woodward says Cheney has told Bush not to fire Rummy because if he does, the war critics will come after him (Cheney) next, and after him, Bush himself. They are concerned about saving their own worthless asses. It's more than just not wanting to admit a booboo. They're on the edge of the abyss.

AND, a new SecDef would mean confirmation hearings. Think about that for a sec. If the Dems take the Senate (knock on wood) Bushie is going to wish he got rid of Rummy when he had the chance.

Obviously the Army Times has been infiltrated by lib traitor journalists.

Apparently, the [military branch] Times are, in fact, published by Gannett.

One thing the Army Times editorial signals is that there will be no shortage of brass ready to testify at oversight hearings that Rumsfeld is an incompetent fool, if not an outright crook.

If the Democrats win both Houses in convincing fashion, I would not be the least surprised to see both Rumsfeld AND Cheney walk the plank. Rove may well decide that he needs to cleanse the Administration of responsibility and to put in place a sitting V-P heir apparent, to secure the 2008 Presidential election.

Rove may well decide that he needs to cleanse the Administration of responsibility and to put in place a sitting V-P heir apparent, to secure the 2008 Presidential election.

Wouldn't that mean two confirmation hearings? Unless they could guarantee that they were run by Lieberman, this seems suicidal. Of course the complete idiocy of a plan never stopped Cheney from adopting it, but I don't see him throwing himself overboard.

Wouldn't that mean two confirmation hearings? Unless they could guarantee that they were run by Lieberman, this seems suicidal.

I'm not sure that's true. Confirmations would remain relatively easy, I suspect. The Dems aren't going to vote against allocating money for the troops, and they aren't going to vote against allocating a Secretary of Defense for the war.

One of the mild conspiracy theories surrounding Lieberman's remarkable support from the GOP machine -- despite his pledge that he will caucus with Democrats, which is becoming a maximally high-value promise, given the increasing likelihood of a near-deadlocked Senate -- has been that he will accept Bush's nomination for Rumsfeld's job, allowing Gov Rell to appoint a Republican replacement in the Senate.

I've been dismissive of this theory, but the more I turn it over in my mind, the more plausible I think it is. It allows everyone involved to look good. Lieberman gets to look like a white knight. Bush gets to look reasonable. (Think about it, what other potential avenues are there at this point for Bush to appear reasonable regarding Iraq?) And GOP supporters of Lieberman get something for their money, which is probably the most compelling argument. Why on earth should the hardcore GOP (including the odious Joe Allbaugh) support a vote for Democratic Senate leadership? What other value for them could possibly offset that cost?

Everyone will look good except Democrats, of course, who will look like utter patsies, especially given the debasing "blow-job contest of epic proportions" (Digby's phrase, I think) that would follow a Lieberman victory.

they aren't going to vote against allocating a Secretary of Defense for the war.

It's not so much the vote as the hearings: the Democrats will be able to ask any nominee questions about Iraq, and they might to a better job than they did with Roberts and Alito. (Now I'm depressed again.) And I'm not sure this applies to the Vice President. Still, I think the decisive point is that Cheney won't throw himself overboard.

schwa, I think you're right that the GOP support for Lieberman means he's promised them something. But someone somewhere said that in that situation, the next thing that happens is the CT legislature passes a law mandating that Senate elections be filled by a special election, and we get a real Dem in the Senate. I don't know how likely that is. (The Dems have a veto-proof majority in the state senate and are two seats short in the house.)

Re: Confirmations would remain relatively easy, I suspect. The Dems aren't going to vote against allocating money for the troops, and they aren't going to vote against allocating a Secretary of Defense for the war.

But if they are voting on a vice-president (= the likely GOP nominee in 2008) those hearings will not be easy and certainly won't be free of political calculation. The only type of person who could sail right through would be someone unassociated with the Bush administration and not known as a gung-ho booster of its policies (that leaves out Rice, McCain and several others). In other words, a latter day Gerald Ford type. But such a person would be unacceptable to Bush and Rove both precisely because he wouldn't be a Bush loyalist, no matter how staunch a Republican he might be. And anyway, absent some scandal of Watergate porportions I cannot conceive of Dick Cheney resigning voluntarily. The VEEP's arrogance makes Louis XIV look like St Basil the Holy Fool. I'd give better odds on finding W dancing in his undies at the next Miami White Party (well, with all the rightwing closet doors coming unhinged these days, maybe that wouldn't be too farfetched at that

Re: I've been dismissive of this theory, but the more I turn it over in my mind, the more plausible I think it is.

Liebermann would have to be nuts to trade a kingmaker seat in the Senate (where everyone will have to faun on and court him for the next years to get anything controversial passed-- in effect he will be the Sandra Day O'Connor of the Senate) for a deck chair on the Titanic.

Liebermann would have to be nuts to trade a kingmaker seat in the Senate (where everyone will have to faun on and court him for the next years to get anything controversial passed . . .

If Lieberman's 'swing vote' status becomes a major pain to both parties, they can change the rules to deal with the problem. It mainly affects procedural matters, as substantive votes rarely come down to straight party line.

My prediction for Libermann:
He'll stick with the Dems for now, and avoid any taint that jumping to the Bush administration might bring him, while gaining creds nationally as the deal and peace-maker between parties in the Senate. But if McCain or Giuliani is the GOP nominee in 2008 Liebermann will be offered the VO spot on the ticket and switch to get it.

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