Nice Bedfellows You've Got There

Enfant ... predictable!

I'd like to make sure people don't confuse cause and effect. You often hear from minimizers of AIPAC's influence that Christian evangelicals are exerting popular pressure for a pro-hard-line Israel policy. Does anyone really believe this sack of shit nut Hagee is the horse pulling the cart?

With friends like that...

What does the average Israeli on the street make of AIPAC?
-J

So you see, John Hagee, who wants to see Israel adopt a hawkish foreign policy that he believes will result in its destruction at the hands of a Russo-Arab alliance is a friend of the Jews. By contrast, everyone who thinks a little pressure to make peace could wind up helping Israel in the long run is an anti-semite.

A fair point generally, although I might dispute the empirical basis for the underlying claim that a "little pressure to make peace could wind up helping Israel in the long run". Just saying.

although I might dispute the empirical basis for the underlying claim that a "little pressure to make peace could wind up helping Israel in the long run"

Would you actually like to dispute that, or would you just like to assert that you might dispute that? I'd be interested to hear the former, but the latter just seems lazy.

So they lined up a nutbag. That's probably a healthy sign; it's the first step towards admitting that their policy preferences are insane. Worth noting, sure, but I'm not sure the nuttiness it demonstrates is the nuttiness of the application of "friends of Israel" / anti-semite tags.

The fact that some of you people are ignorant of name, doesn't mean the guy is not extremely influential in this country.

> Does anyone really believe this sack of shit >nut Hagee is the horse pulling the cart?

No Jew ever held as much sway over Ronald Reagan, as Hal Lindsey did.

Well, as a casual observer of world events, Hagee's predictions seem pretty sensible and reasonable to me...

Hagee is damned fool, fraud, and one of the most disgusting people i have ever met. I grew up in San Antonio, where his tax shelter of a chuch, Cornerstone, is based. His poor congregation is as wacky as he is. I sometimes watch his broadcast sermons for the comedic (comic?) value, but sadly, it has become far too disturbing. Images of fighterjets and explosions and the like are projected behind him. This dude WANTS the world to be destroyed. He was THRILLED with israel's recent incurrsions into Palestine and was in D.C. talking about how badass this could all be.

Oddly, the mind-bending point you make about destruction v. anti-semitism is embodied in his doctrine. He thinks the destruction of Israel is inevitable and it his duty to bring it about. But unlike hundreds of years of Christian orthodoxy, he believes in "Dualism" - that Jews are "saved" and need not accept Christ as savior. So, Matt, maybe it is not so bad for you.

And his claim of expertise for all things Israel? He got some honorary degree from some bogus theological school in Oklahoma (i think) and now claims to be Dr. Hagee.

Something else you should know about Hagee: he called European anti-semtism and the Holocaust part of "God's plan" for punishing the Jews for turning away from God as well as for enabling their return to the "Holy Land":

"It was the disobedience and rebellion of the Jews, God's chosen people, to their covenantal responsibility to serve only the one true God, Jehovah, that gave rise to the opposition and persecution that they experienced beginning in Canaan and continuing to this very day....

How utterly repulsive, insulting, and heartbreaking to God for His chosen people to credit idols with bringing blessings He had showered upon the chosen people. Their own rebellion had birthed the seed of anti-Semitism that would arise and bring destruction to them for centuries to come.... it rises from the judgment of God uppon his rebellious chosen people." ( "Jerusalem Countdown: A Prelude To War", 206, paperback edition, pages 92 and 93 )

AIPAC should no longer be taken credibly for inviting someone like that. He's a full-fledged lunatic.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/3/5/1170/24629
THese guys are coming to my neighborhood very soon.

Night to Honor Israel
5/20/2007 at 7:00:00 PM
Rachel M. Schlesinger Concert Hall & Arts Center
3001 North Beauregard St
Alexandria, VA
Information: (703) xxx-xxxx

This is on the campus of the Northern Virginia Community College. Now, I took classes there last year and I conservatively estimate the proportion of Muslim students there at 25%. To me, this seems like a deliberately provocative move by them.

"he believes in "Dualism" - that Jews are "saved" and need not accept Christ as savior. "

Score! This is better than that time I got the Get Out of Jail Free card in Monopoly!

As the saying goes, he who sups with the devil should bring a long spoon.

Something else you should know about Hagee: he called European anti-semtism and the Holocaust part of "God's plan" for punishing the Jews for turning away from God as well as for enabling their return to the "Holy Land"

Interestingly, that's an argument made by the ultra-Orthodox settlers/settler supporters in Israel too.

I'm a more than casual viewer of world events, and if I tilt my head and squint, I can see what he's talking about with the one world gov't (UN) and the one world currency (Not sure, but either the dollar or the euro). But what the heck is the one world religion supposed to be? Last time I checked, Christians and Muslims weren't getting along too well. For that matter, Christendom itself has never been particularly unified, and certainly isn't getting more so.

Interestingly, that's an argument made by the ultra-Orthodox settlers/settler supporters in Israel too.

It's one made by a specific faction of ultra-orthodox, the followers of Kook (or Kahane).

Something else you should know about Hagee: he called European anti-semtism and the Holocaust part of "God's plan" for punishing the Jews for turning away from God as well as for enabling their return to the "Holy Land"

Jeebus. Maybe his inclusion does show the idiocy of AIPAC's application of "friend of Israel" / anti-semite.

Why is Russia leading an army of Arab nations to war? Wouldn't that job fall to, you know, an Arab nation?

See how the sermon holds up in a Baghdad alleyway.

"You want us to head down THAT alley, and start kicking in doors . . . because WHY?"

I wonder what the market is for white horses? Could you imagine if you owned the horse that Jesus wanted to return on.
I bet you could retire on the sale.

Does anyone really believe this sack of shit nut Hagee is the horse pulling the cart? - brendan

Of course, many of the people who love AIPAC's influence (the sorts of people who will brag to fellow Jews about how wonderful it is that "we" control America's agenda 'cause AIPAC is so powerful, even as they will label anyone who points out AIPAC's influence as an anti-Semite) would argue the same thing. Indeed, as much as many people in Israel think AIPAC is nuts (e.g. I would say that in the realm of Israeli politics, I would be more to the right than 25% of Israeli Jews, but compared to American Jews actively involved in Jewish life, I'm only to the right of about 10%), they don't even know enough about the Christian Zionist agenda to even worry about it -- so they'll take whatever support they can get.

Still, I do worry that by enabling elements of the Zionist movement that are wont to match macho posturing with quasi-religious zeal, the Christian Zionists really are steering the agenda. And by convincing themselves that "we don't care what a bunch of dumb goyim believe -- it's all false anyhow -- we'll just take their money and use them as tools", the Jewish right more readily allows themselves to be used as tools.

According to scripture, Jesus loved ridin' Ass. (Matthew 21:7)

Also, according to the internets, he's riding one now:
http://idisk.mac.com/mrboma/Public/JCD.png

The Russians would want the Persian Gulf oil? Umm, is this the same Russia swimming in petro-rubles, sitting on the most vast oil reserves on the planet?

"Still, I do worry that by enabling elements of the Zionist movement that are wont to match macho posturing with quasi-religious zeal, the Christian Zionists really are steering the agenda. And by convincing themselves that "we don't care what a bunch of dumb goyim believe -- it's all false anyhow -- we'll just take their money and use them as tools", the Jewish right more readily allows themselves to be used as tools."

This probably a lot of truth to this. Despite all the talk about Jewish neocons, the absolute number of American Jews with real power in the past 30 years has been rather small. Guys like Douglas Feith are incidental in the big picture and are dropped by Christians like Bush and Cheney, the ones really running the picture, if they become a liability. Beyond Kissinger and Albright, not that many Jews have held fuck-me power. George Soros gets slandered like a joke despite his wealth and all that he gets accomplished. It really comes down to what American Christians want. AIPAC wouldn't matter if people like Hagee and his followers didn't care about it. There aren't enough conservative Jews to keep it relevant. Accusations of anti-Semitism only matter among Christianists if anti-Semitism = anti-Israel = anti-Judgement Day = anti-Christianist. When real anti-Semitism happens down South, such as a Jewish Democrats opponents calling up potential voters and asking if they are comfortable voting for someone who doesn't believe Jesus is their savior, it doesn't matter to them. If a synagogue gets burned in the US, they probably would ignore it and only pay attention if it happened in the Middle East or France.

The article in the attached link is absolutely correct and accurate.

http://web.israelinsider.com/Views/10860.htm

Reality Man -- I do declare you are aptly named! ;)

I am sometimes paranoid enough to believe that the right is happy to put a Jewish face on their designs that way when they fail, the Jews can be blamed ... I wonder how long it'll take them to blame us for the Iraq debacle?

And I had Jewish aquaintances tell me that the war in Iraq was something we Jews should support as it would be good for the Jews ... oy vey ...

http://www.amazon.com/Match-Made-Heaven-Exploration-Judeo-Evangelical/dp/0060890584

Everything I need to know I learned via Colbert. The Judeo-Evangelical Axis is like nitro and glycerin sitting down for tea. Only a rabid Zionist would be willing to trust these Christian Zionists as far as he could toss their little fundy asses. Strange bedfellows indeed, if by "bed" you mean Temple Mount.

Oy vey. Zev Chafets go choke on a matzoh Eucharist.

i bet they're the same people telling you the US carpet-bombing of Iran will be good for the Jews

I wrote about the Rev. Hagee in the context of Jerusalem Derangement Syndrome here:

http://isteve.blogspot.com/2006/04/jerusalem-syndrome.html

Jesus on a white horse?

And I always thought he would ride a palomino. Shows you what I know. Me, I'm just hoping for some chestnut colored warmblood with white socks.

Face it, Yglesias. Hagee is a serious voice on security affairs, and his argument that we must induce Russia and the Arabs to attack us with nuclear weapons in order to be governed by Jose Salinas-Antichrist and then rescued by Jesus Christ on a nuclear-powered stealth attack-fighter white horse is a serious argument. You and your peacenik free-love group house buddies, with your argument that we should let the terrorists defeat us in Iraq in order to Communize American health care and raise the minimum wage to one billion dollars per second in order to cause 100% unemployment, are lightweights.

"Posted by: Greg on March 6, 2007 06:00 PM

"But what the heck is the one world religion supposed to be? Last time I checked, Christians and Muslims weren't getting along too well."

I think the entire prognostication is baloney, promoted by a bunch of doomsayers who profit emotionally, economically and politically from the misery of others.

I would hope that everyone on this planet would hold REASON and RATIONALITY in the highest regard. Then ascribe everything else that you can't figure out to RELIGION, with the caveat that you grant to your government the power to guarantee freedom of religion to everyone. That way, there's someone to keep religions from killing each other in the name of their deity.

Hmmm...Come to think of it, that's what the founders of the United States must have had in mind when they wrote in the the Constitution that "no religious test shall ever be required as a condition for holding office or public trust in the United States."

Then at the very first chance they had to improve their earlier work, the number one issue was religion: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...". (Read that several times, and yuu'll see that there are two distinctly different thoughts expressed there)

For many decades the Southern Baptist Convention held as dogma the proposition that the church and state were two seperate entities. (The SBC is the branch of Protestantism to which Hagee allegedly belongs.) Then somewhere back in the early 1970's, I would guess, that apparently changed. Now in much of the South, your religion is your politics and your preacher tells you how to vote.

It never was a good idea, but now the nutcases have a connection to a man with his finger on the nuclear button.

its high time AIPAC realized that the Democrats are in charge now and they'll have to start sucking up by making Israel compatible with a liberal agenda instead of what they've been doing, making Israel seem compatible with a conservative nationalist agenda.

Matt,
Followed your link, read some of your writing, you're obviously intelligent - why would you possibly come here and peddle that straw? I didn't notice you were selling any on your blog, why here?

What does the average Israeli on the street make of AIPAC?
-J

Posted by: John I on March 6, 2007 04:51 PM

This site gives the opinions of some American Rabbis who Hagee wanted to come to one of their cult meetings. Hagee by the way makes millions and says he deserves every penny.

http://www.jewsonfirst.org/06c/cufi_listserv.html

I still want to know if Israel is trying to get me to pay for that Lebanon thing.

In other news, my mother informs me that Jenna Bush will be writing something about AIDS. Through meditation and a secret cocktail of rare herbs I have channeled the lede: "AIDS is like so bad. You guys have no idea."

Re: No Jew ever held as much sway over Ronald Reagan, as Hal Lindsey did.

Ronald Reagan has about as much religion as my cat. It was all an act-- remember what Reagan's former profession was? And in fact it was not even a very good act since Mr Reagan did not much bother with the church thing. Neither Hal Lindsey nor anyone else from that camp had any influence over Reagan.

Re: Something else you should know about Hagee: he called European anti-semtism and the Holocaust part of "God's plan" for punishing the Jews

One of the most repulsive things about extreme fundamentalism of this sort is that it insists that God must be in control of everything down to the least detail. This not only reduces human beings to puppets (contradicting free will and therefore the very concept of "sin"), but it also makes God the direct author of every evil in the world. Nice trick guys!

I still want to know if Israel is trying to get me to pay for that Lebanon thing.

Tom Lantos wanted Israel to get matching funds for any aid to Lebanon. Israel doesn't get enough money apparently.

Oh, yeah. Tom Lantos is the ranking democrat for the house international relations comittee. God help us.

Having done my own Hagee-bashing at the Ezra blog the other night, it's nice to hear the thundering footsteps of Big Media Matt coming in to back me up.

Hm, the perils of attempting irony. I guess the second half of my earlier post could be interpreted as sarcastically exaggerating the positions of Matthew Yglesias and other lefties in order to lampoon them, rather than what I intended, which was sarcastically exaggerating the fashion in which many anti-lefties sarcastically exaggerate leftie positions, in order to lampoon the anti-lefties, rather than the lefties.

As Jon Stewart wisely counseled John Ashcroft (I believe): "Do not attempt a joke, sir!"

As Jon Stewart wisely counseled John Ashcroft (I believe): "Do not attempt a joke, sir!"
Posted by: mattsteinglass on March 7, 2007 05:07 AM

Don't give up on satire and irony! They're all that stands between us and full blown dadaism when confronted by the Hagee's of the world.

But what the heck is the one world religion supposed to be? Last time I checked, Christians and Muslims weren't getting along too well.

"Ecumenical" Christianity, as espoused by the World Council of Churches. Many of the Darbyites also expect the Pope to oversee the new global religion, since (1) he already does oversee a global faith, and (2) Catholics are kinda heathen anyway.

And people still have a hard time separating belief from utility:

Ronald Reagan has about as much religion as my cat. It was all an act-- remember what Reagan's former profession was? And in fact it was not even a very good act since Mr Reagan did not much bother with the church thing.

So far, so good. President Reagan didn't really have much genuine religious belief. And yet:

Neither Hal Lindsey nor anyone else from that camp had any influence over Reagan.

doesn't follow from that. See, it's called "pandering," and it's why fundamentalist churches across this land rushed to put up more pictures of Reagan than of Jesus Christ Himself. Drooling, blasphemous worship from a newly-empowered voting group is a useful political tool, as Republicans have found ever since Reagan. And you've got to give them something, so of course they had some influence. It just looks like no influence when compared to the current administration, which, by the way, is headed up by another man who hardly ever darkens a church door.

And I understand there's a group of chickens who've aligned themselves with Col. Sanders because he promised to protect the hen house.

My dear Hagee has it completely backwards. The Evil is the U.S. M.I.C.,New York Bankers,Mega-Oil Companies,and the EVIL Bush Admin along with the MIC Evil Israel national government. These are the people control by Satan of this world. Hagee is a stooge and sucker.

The real 'shock and awe' is coming when Isreal gets it ass kicked and god doesn't appear in a big 'poof of smoke' to make everything right. The whole 'final fight' is a self-fulfilling prophesy... you instill a belief into one's sunconcious enough times, they will make it happen. The same happend on a societal scale.

I feel sorry for those who still believe in superstitutions such as the en vogue religions... or religions in all forms, because they are in for a let-down of galactic proportions in the very near future.

"In Hagee’s telling, Israel has no choice but to strike at Iran’s nuclear facilities, with or without America’s help. The strike will provoke Russia -- which wants Persian Gulf oil -- to lead an army of Arab nations against Israel."

Right.

Russia is oh-so popular with the (largely Sunni) Arabs, given it's benevolence in Afghanistan, Chechnya, and Bosnia.

Of course they will flock together to defend the Persian Shiites, of whom they are so fond.

In addition to being a blowhard, Hagee is demonstrably a historical illiterate. It would be as believeable, and a lot more interesting, if he had fingered the Romulans.

Put that fat, as-yet-unconvicted-pedophile, in the front lines. Hagee is SO anxious to send others to war, that fat coward should be sent to Iraq with Bush and Cheney,

I just noticed: "The real 'shock and awe' is coming when Isreal gets it ass kicked and god doesn't appear in a big 'poof of smoke' to make everything right." And got to be thinking, Just HOW MANY times has their Yahweh failed to show up?! They got dragged to Babylon, they lost a big chunk to someone, the Romans stomped them on a regular basis, Hitler kicked them around..... Their SO-CALLED claim to "The land of the Palestinians"....oh!, they call it israel, IS BASED ON A NO-SHOW, IMPOTENT, "god". The only way they are hanging on now is with Uncle Sam's WELFARE CHECKS...............

""Ecumenical" Christianity, as espoused by the World Council of Churches. "

Wait, so it's just Christians getting along with each other? Funny, the only place that's really happening is in the U.S., where the likes of Bill Donohue, James Dobson, Dennis Prager, and all the rest of the assorted nutjobs get together to overthrow secular society.

Don't see you at TPM any more, Matt!

Josh's "crypto-Zionism" finally get to you?

Or maybe Greenbaum ranted one too many times?

Josh promised everybody he wouldn't ban anybody without warnings, or reasons, or consideration.

Then he lied.

During the "Weekend Massacre", he banned everybody who was "anti-Semite" in his eyes, and left the ranters like Greenbaum still posting their "Anti-Semite" accusations left and right...

Pretty much demonstrates where his interests lie.

Meanwhile, it's still "all Republican corruption all the time" over there - while Bush lays down the Iran war plans. Although the latest rumor is that the Pentagon wants another seven to nine months to "plan" the war - weren't the last seven to nine months enough? Or are the generals just getting cold feet?

Everybody noticed the second aircraft carrier battle group arriving in the the Gulf region.

Nobody notices the USS Reagan battle group ALSO on its way to the Gulf. Only a Hawaiian local paper happened to notice that two destroyers on their way to join the Reagan on its way West were "headed to the Persian Gulf." This as opposed to the Reagan official "destination" being to replace another carrier supposed to be in drydock in Japan - except said carrier isn't being refitted by private contractors but merely being touched up by the crew itself. Meaning it could be returned to service quickly - while the Reagan takes up station in the Indian Ocean - near enough to the Gulf to meet the Navy's "surge" requirements.

Oh, yeah, the Iran war is on. It's been on for months. They're just looking for the right timing, the right excuse.

And nobody in the US Senate or House is going to stop it. Cheney already said that explicitly.

Look folks,

Israel and the Jews aren't going down without taking everyone else with them (the "Samson option"), so that means at least 200
cities worldwide will be vaporized at some point.

So my advice is to relax and enjoy every day on this sick ride to the bitter end.

Read "Revelation Revolution" by Greg Albrecht (www.ptm.org) for a totally different view on the Endtimes and what they are.

Hagee has it all wrong and he is in the same boat with the Pharisees who wanted to kill Jesus Christ (they were so sure that it was the right thing to do). I also agree that he is a "useful idiot" for the Israeli lobby.

Hagee is an apostate Christian as are all zionist Christians. They will burn in a lake of fire.

Hagee and his CZ brethren (notably LaHaye and Robertson) are in a mutual use-each-other deal with rightist Israelis: half of U.S. tourism to Israel is organized by their networks, they raise significant amounts of money to support settlers, and Hagee's Citizens United for Israel mobilizes political support for pro-rightist-Israeli policy where it would otherwise be quite weak: the rural and suburban south.

Three or four times last year in my little county, one of the local fundie churches sponsored insane 'Bible Prophecy' speakers who promote the necessity of an assault on Iran (necessary for the fulfillment of prophecy).

Laugh them off at your peril.

"But what the heck is the one world religion supposed to be? Last time I checked, Christians and Muslims weren't getting along too well."

Multiculturalism.

First, do not confuse the Jewish or chosen of God with the Zionist, the Zionist are a secular minority in denial of Torah who control Israel, making them a non-Jew. Also Zionist Christians would have to deny the teaching of Christ to follow the error of John Hagee. Hagee in helping (secular man) immigrate Jewish people into Israel for desolation, would seem to be a partner with the man of Rebellion and his servants who are behind this work.
If you want good advise about the true Israel, ask a True Torah Jewish believer, who are obedient to God, and say Israel cannot be re-established by man, nor a Temple built by man, both are done (only) by the Messiah. This is proven true in the Bible.
Christians need read Ezakiel, that says God does gather the scattered out of the nations, and into the desert of these nations, but here the rebellious are purged out and God says they will NOT enter Israel.
The Temple contrary to the new sanhedrin in Israel, in the Bible said comes down out of heaven as the New Jerusalem, within this New Jerusalem God says is His Sanctuary (Temple) that HE establishes forever.
By the way, Hagee's claim that President Mahoud Alamadinejad of Iran said he wants "Israel Wiped Off the Map" is error, these words will not be found strung together in the speech, rather he repeated the Khomeini, agreeing that the "Zionist Regime of Jerusalem should disappears as did Communist Russia and Saddam.
So be very careful Christians, there are many false teachers and prophets leading even the elect astray today.

I forgot to mention the Gog and Magog, that once was thought to mean Russia (Gog). More accurately today, Gog would indicate recent Satellite States (South of Russia) that once belonged to Russia, and now are independent. These are people mostly Muslim, the same taught by Western Empires (Magog) to want Israel gone.
Today Russia and Israel have big oil and pipeline deals going between themselves

The Zionists like John Hagee often misquote Romans-13 (submit to authorities) and Genesis 12:3 (bless those who bless you, and curse those who curse you). Concerning authorities it was God who scattered the Chosen, calling these Chosen to this day as the rebellious. And concerning the later quote, in this biblical passage God is actually speaking to Abram (who later is called Abraham). The nation of Israel did not even exist at this time. Also the man known as Israel (Jacob), for whom the nation was named, had not even been born yet. Moreover the Bible tells about the true future re-gathering throughout both Old and New Testament, and in full context describes only a remnant of the scattered called the elect that will be gathered in peace into Gods' Covenant forever within Israel, and within Israel is the New Jerusalem that comes down out of heaven.
About misquoting of Honoring Authorities, it needs be remembered the command of Christ in Luke 22:26 (Gentile authorities), that when faced with conflicting authorities in which one is within the will of God and the other is out of the will of God even though serving Gods purpose, do not to be as the rebellious, in this conflict submit to the will of the supreme authority that is God. In obedience (the mature) in the Lord should understand the meaning regarding having (proper) respect of authorities.

Interesting point by one of the commentators onSalier's post -- Can't forget the Evangelical Christianity versus Islam angle:

"You underrate the evangelicals, I think. An evangelical pro-Israel lobby needn't be predicated on radical eschatology...

What this actually is, is an evangelical anti-Islamic lobby. Can't call it that, of course - too "intolerant", and folks would far rather be "for" something than "against" something else. So...let's get together and be "for" whatever Moslems hate most - which is the state of Israel.

As a bonus, philo-semitism is a public contradiction of left-wing stereotypes about evangelicals, and critics are hard-pressed to come up with arguments they can make in public against...supporting Jews. Let the liberals find out what it's like to be aligned against a minority immune to criticism.

I think it's brilliant, personally."

Let's face it - the enemies of Israel are the enemies of Christianity and the West. Islam will not reform from within, and the majority of Muslims worldwide support the global jihad by their very silence, and, like it or not, threaten the entire world. The next World War will be upon us as soon as the terrorists acquire weapons of mass desrtuction, and, make no mistake - they will use them! I only wish I could see the same passionate Zionist leadership from Israel's present corrupt government. No great leaders with the status of Ben-Gurion, Moshe dayan, Golda meir, etc etc, appear to be on the Horizon. Israel must live as a bastioon against Islamic terrorism- that's the bottom line- and if John Hagee is a person who can amalgamate anti-terrorist support, then he deserves our support!! Listen to his speech at the recent DBS conference in Washington..and tell me you are not moved by it.

Hagee and his CZ brethren (notably LaHaye and Robertson) are in a mutual use-each-other deal with rightist Israelis: half of U.S. tourism to Israel is organized by their networks, they raise significant amounts of money to support settlers, and Hagee's Citizens United for Israel mobilizes political support for pro-rightist-Israeli policy where it would otherwise be quite weak: the rural and suburban south.

Three or four times last year in my little county, one of the local fundie churches sponsored insane 'Bible Prophecy' speakers who promote the necessity of an assault on Iran (necessary for the fulfillment of prophecy).

Laugh them off at your peril.

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