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Rich Lowry reports on a Giuliani campaign appearance:

Then he began to muse about, after a veto, "would the president have the constitutional authority to support them [the troops], anyway?" He said he's a lawyer so he wouldn't offer an opinion "off the top of his head," then he proceeded to do just that. He seemed to suggest that Bush could fund the Iraq war without Congress providing funding, but it was confusing. In an interview with a New Hampshire TV reporter after his remarks, he seemed more categorical and said, since the war had been authorized by Congress, the president has "the inherent authority to support the troops."

Lowry kindly notes that this incident "could be seized on by his critics to argue that he has a dangerously out-sized view of presidential powers." Frankly, people with an outsized view of presidential powers shouldn't be tarred by association with Giuliani, a power-hungry egomaniac who just happens to be running for president at the moment. When he was Mayor, he thought he had the power to abrogate the City Charter and illegally extend his term in office. If he winds up as Borough President of Brooklyn he'll take an outsized view of the powers of that office. The difference is that there are pretty strong institutional checks on the power of local government officials -- even mayors of giant cities -- in the United States so it didn't matter all that much that Giuliani was a power-hungry egomaniac.

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Posted by: Swan on April 3, 2007 09:57 AM

"Support the troops" has always meant two things: "Support my war" and "Support the insider elite, of which I am, or hope to be a member".

Posted by: otto on April 3, 2007 09:59 AM

Support the war = Indulge Bush while he holds the military hostage

Posted by: Jeffrey Davis on April 3, 2007 10:11 AM

Rudey is definitely the appropriate heir to Bush's legacy.

The whole defunding meme has missed the mark--the real goal for Congressional Democrats has been to squeeze Congressional Republicans, who then will squeeze Bush.

Posted by: Geek, Esq. on April 3, 2007 10:15 AM

Somewhat OT: Hotline has a hilarious item - a "Conservative Declaration of Independence from Rudy." Unfortunately, it's his record of "liberal judges" that disturbs these guys, not his awful monarchical view of the executive branch.

Posted by: Clark on April 3, 2007 10:23 AM

Rich Lowry and Giuliani are both neocons / neoliberals. I already signed the Conservative Exodus Project

http://www.conservativeexodusproject.com/

There is no way I'd vote for Giuliani.

Posted by: Right-Winger on April 3, 2007 10:25 AM

"power-hungry egomaniac"?
Why are going soft and lying about Giuliani suddenly? -he's offered you the position of grand-vizier uber-czar of something or other after he gets elected, or what?
Don't you mean "ruthless and lawless power-crazed megalomaniac with latent Bushist messianic tendancies"?

Fortunately he is also a "hair trigger meltdown artist" as Alexander Wolcott said about another wingnut. So I think Giuliani will fix himself up good as soon as he is forced to debate and defend his fake credentials on anything other than operatic deranged-diva levels of self-promotion and logy, authoritarian and opaque policy oracularism.

I will sign conservative exodus too, as soon as I figure out Donnie Kennedy is, and if that option will cause more GOP trouble than Paul or Tancredo.

Posted by: anon on April 3, 2007 10:32 AM

Lowry kindly notes that this incident "could be seized on by his critics to argue that he has a dangerously out-sized view of presidential powers." Frankly, people with an outsized view of presidential powers shouldn't be tarred by association with Giuliani, a power-hungry egomaniac who just happens to be running for president at the moment.

Heh, I love this turn of phrase.

But the quote from the Corner is bad evidence that Guiliani is power-hungry. I don't disagree with your general point, but I want to nitpick play Devil's Advocate because this isn't a good example of it. In this case, Guiliani's history lines up perfectly with another motivation: playing to the base. People who still approve of Bush and want to stay in Iraq indefinitely and think any meaningful Congressional oversight would be bad — those people make up a slight majority of Republicans, and a strong majority of likely primary voters. Every GOP candidate who wants to get through the general is going to make at least some noises in their direction. It's little more than a coincidence that Guiliani (why do I keep trying to spell his name "Guiniani"?) is making this particular noise in this particular way.

Call him power-hungry, fine, but the other Republican candidates will say something like this too. If we assume that they are all indistinguishable from Guiliani on this, it'll mistake the motivations of some of them, not to mention sounding repetitive.

Posted by: Cyrus on April 3, 2007 10:35 AM

He could be referring to the Food and Forage Act of 1861, which gives the president the power to expend funds to provide for the the basic needs of the troops, even without a Congressional appropriations.

Posted by: Judah on April 3, 2007 10:51 AM

Rich Lowry and Giuliani are both neocons / neoliberals. I already signed the Conservative Exodus Project

Argh, you don't like them. We get it. If you were making a point worth responding to, I'd refer you to John Cole, Andrew Sullivan, this guy, or any of dozens of others who are dealing with what a "real conservative" is. But since your link seems to offer nothing more than xenophobia, this seems like nothing more than spam. Try to restrain yourself and not plug The Glorious People's Conservative Exodus Project in every thread in every thread you can possibly shoehorn it into.

Posted by: Cyrus on April 3, 2007 11:05 AM

The president probably would be upheld in emergency funding for the troops if Congress denied him. There are precedents. But the fact that Rudy is an egomaniac hardly distinguishes him from his chief Dem challenger, Hillary, and with her you get two egomaniacs hungry for power at the same time!

Posted by: daveinboca on April 3, 2007 01:22 PM

Yes, even the mayor of New York City doesn't have access to nuclear launch codes.

Watching Rudy's candidacy is like living in an alternate-history novel where fascists get elected and take over the country. Or maybe the sequel to the one we're already in.

Posted by: biggerbox on April 3, 2007 01:27 PM

biggerbox: painfully true

Posted by: mpowell on April 3, 2007 02:17 PM

Rudy's new slogan:
"Giuliani! Making John Yoo look reasonable."

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Cyrus,

Andrew "Bareback" Sullivan is a left-wing radical who uses "conservatism" as a Trojan horse to promote his radical pro-homoseual agenda.


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