Time to Reconsider?

You're missing the, um, counter-intuitive part of the argument-- Hanson is saying that that we should hold off bombing Iran until their behavior improves.

Amazingly, he's arguing that we should not bomb Iran because that's what they would want us to do. Are we sure this isn't a parody site?

Victor Davis Contrarian Infant:

It's probably a good rule to do the opposite of anything the Iranian theocracy wants. Apparently, this government is now doing its darnedest to be bombed. So, for the time being, we should not grant them this wish.

Apparently Vic thinks the US should give declare Osama bin Laden an ally in the War Against Unfrieldly Muslim Theocracies, because, y'know, the mullahs hate al Qaida. This opens new avenues of foreign policy I've never considered. Imagine! If we just figure out what the opposition wants and then make sure to do the exact opposite, we win!

Sheer genius.

"Squelching" on debts?

Y'all need to keep in mind that VDH is crazy like a fox (or possibly a bloodthirsty shrew.) He rejects bombing, but he appears to favor a divestment campaign and high-seas blockade that would cause more widespread suffering than bombing military targets, and would leave Iran little choice but to take actions leading toward war.

He's a trickster, this Hanson cat.

There's just nothing in it for Victor. Bombing doesn't feature sweaty, buff seminude male bodies, unlike the Hollywood image of Thermopylae.

Persian Emissary: This is madness!

Spartan King Leonidas: Madness? This is HAAAANNNNNSSSSSOOONNNN!!!!

VDH is pseudo-intellectualism on stilts.

Although "If Hanson believes it, then it is wrong" is probably a very useful heuristic, it gets complicated here, because he seems to be employing an "if Iran wants it, then it is wrong" heuristic of his own.

I think employing the otherwise useful VDH != correct logic would, in this case, yield an Iran == correct outcome, which also can't be right.

Ah, dj moonbat, you are correct. We must remember to take into account the "Stopped Clock Postulate" as well as its corrolary the "One Can Be Correct For The Wrong Reasons" theorem. This means that the Victor Davis Hanson machine is not, in fact, a deterministic device for assigning the correct form of action but is instead a non-deterministic function whose output should either be carefully scrutinized to determine whether it should be used to make a decision, or possibly ignored altogether as "semi-random noise".

I know which conclusion I would draw.

Amazingly, he's arguing that we should not bomb Iran because that's what they would want us to do.

Well, god help me, he has a point.

Haven't we sensible folk been agreed that the sometimes-shaky theocrats in Iran would love the U.S. to bomb a few nuke sites, in order to help keep the population focused on nationalism rather than, say, why they can't buy porn off the internet?

Iran has been asking for it for a long time and they are going to get it.

http://web.israelinsider.com/views/11098.htm

Hi, my name is George.

I am unemployed and I live with my parents!

Neocons like Hanson act as if our history with Iran began in 1979, conveniently forgetting years of US/British involvement and interference before and during the Shah's reign.

"Neocons like Hanson act as if our history with Iran began in 1979, conveniently forgetting years of US/British involvement and interference before and during the Shah's reign.
Posted by: dango on April 5, 2007 06:13 PM"

Doing so would mean that they would have to care about brown people (even though Iranians aren't exactly that brown) and they can't have that. Knowing stuff about another country, especially a non-white one? Why would a neocon care? Neo-conservatism is one part Trotskyism (bite me Hitchens) with one part Rousseaian (sp?) delusions and one part virulent racism masked as humanitarianism. Sadly, this is how they seem smart to the under-educated people who can't find Iran (or Ohio) on a map.

Neocons like Hanson act as if our history with Iran began in 1979, conveniently forgetting years of US/British involvement and interference before and during the Shah's reign.

Hanson doesn't forget about it. They almost certainly favor the overthrow of Mossadegh and the installation and maintenance of the Shah, but would prefer not to stand up for those positions, because it takes things out of the realm of the Greek epic and into the realm of skulduggery.

There is increasing rumors of impending US air attack on Iran, from Kuwaiti and Russian sources and being repeated in Chinese newspapers. Not sure how credible as these things seem to come and go, could just be psych-ops.

"The country's leadership apparently worried little about retaliations from NATO, since their officers, according to one former top-ranking military official with whom I spoke, had been orchestrating the killing of Americans inside Iraq since well before Iranian vessels intercepted a British boat they claimed was in Iranian waters."

I seem to remember the rest of us saw that claim on the teevee, live from Baghdad, without having VDH's contacts with "former top-ranking military officials".

Ok, well, they had totally laid out the groundwork for war, and now they're signalling back off.

I read that as they were ready to go and something happened.

m, they doesn't mean they've backed off in the long term, the long term being 2009.

Appeasement of Iran.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/05/AR2007040501796.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&sub=AR

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